Friday, August 18, 2006

What's Wrong With This Statement?

From Glen Dean:
I have really never understood the arguments against our government listening in on Al Qaeda's phone calls.
Could it be that it begs the wrong question?

Has any sane individual on any point in the political spectrum ever proposed not listening to al Qaeda's phone calls?

Not anyone I've seen. But hey -- prove me wrong. Show me someone who says "We should not listen to al Qaeda's phone calls." A URL is fine.

No, the issue is not wiretapping, or even who should be wiretapped. The issue is obeying the law, getting warrants and having a record of what was done to whom, and why. Legal wiretapping is good, and it's surprisingly easy for our government agencies to do. Secret surveillance without any statutory oversight by the government is bad. Simple.

I imagine that Glen just naturally trusts our current administration to only be spying on who they say they're spying. If so, that's a curious position for a libertarian. Not so much for an authoritarian, though.

For anyone who wants to argue the focus of my point, save yourself some time, and read up on FISA and the various arguments asserted by the Bush administration for their obvious lawbreaking.
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7 comments :

Hank said...

It's just a shitty straw man, built because it is very hard to argue for the program's legality.

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dave said...

Was that the little moronic brownshirt fuck's comment that got deleted? I came all the way over here just to see it!

Well, I guess I'll stay to watch the giant cat eat that car...

Pen Ultimate said...

dave -- You didn't miss much. Just the standard, non-sequitur BS, "Democrats are always wrong, blahblahblah." Since it had sweet FA to do with this post, I ganked it.
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dave said...

So is "ganking" one of those beloved Southern colloquialisms I hear so much about? ;)

BTW, any video of that giant cat eating that car? Or you cleaning the litter box the next day???

Anonymous said...

Great post, but there's one problem...

"begs the question" means to *avoid* asking a question, not to ask one.

You already know what a pedantic bastard I am...

-JR, arsonist

Pen Ultimate said...

dave -- The litterbox-cleaning is the easiest part. I just turn on the giant electromagnet in the spare bedroom, and then hoist it out the window, and switch it off. :)
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